Yeah, they’re up 17-3, but Cutler hasn’t looked all that impressive. Especially against a team like Denver who’s never been known for an imposing defense.
From primecomputing Cutler has a 106.5 QB rating for the night.
Orton has a 89.58 rating for the game
QB ratings can be deceptive especially when it’s only half of the game. Orton’s rating wasn’t surprising since I didn’t expect much from him. Cutler’s rating is lower than last week’s, which was skewed anyway because he only played 3 series.
I’d take a 106.5 rating any day of the week How about you?
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
No one is suggesting you be giddy...but I believe what I said....Something else will always be a factor...the defense...the play calling...the pre-season....something will always make you all “bah humbug” on this guy....
Bullshit again. I’ve said nothing other than I don’t think he was that impressive. His numbers weren’t that spectacular. I never said they were bad, just nothing to write home about.
So I would appreciate it if you stop telling me what I think.
Please Tom....we can all read....this post and others...you hate the guy, no matter what he does...and everything you write about him is reflective of that....so...bullshit back at you....unless this guy is the Superbowl MVP it won’t matter to you...and that’s not telling you what you think, it’s what I believe from what you write.
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
Tom, while he wasnt as flashy as last week, he did move the ball and get 17 points by half. He went int oa very hostile situation and performed quite well. While he started out rocky, and I use the term losely becasue it wasnt that bad, he did manage to recover well and lead us to one heck of a drive to end the half. We arent asking you to be giddy, but at least acknowledge that he is a good QB. And better then average because he has done nothing to show anything otherwise. While he might not be Brady or Manning, he is still one hell of a lot better then anything the Bears have had in my lifetime and probably most of yours.
I’m happy with Cutler’s play. He could have easily peed down his leg if he was the emotional weakling some would have us believe. He kept his poise and put together a very nice series before the end of the half.
The one thing that disturbed me this game was Orlando Pace’s resemblance to a revolving door.
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
Tom, while he wasnt as flashy as last week, he did move the ball and get 17 points by half. He went int oa very hostile situation and performed quite well. While he started out rocky, and I use the term losely becasue it wasnt that bad, he did manage to recover well and lead us to one heck of a drive to end the half. We arent asking you to be giddy, but at least acknowledge that he is a good QB. And better then average because he has done nothing to show anything otherwise. While he might not be Brady or Manning, he is still one hell of a lot better then anything the Bears have had in my lifetime and probably most of yours.
All.
Not sure if Tom was alive for Sid Luckmans time. Its possible he saw him.
I’m happy with Cutler’s play. He could have easily peed down his leg if he was the emotional weakling some would have us believe. He kept his poise and put together a very nice series before the end of the half.
The one thing that disturbed me this game was Orlando Pace’s resemblance to a revolving door.
yeah, wasnt to keen on that. And there was a stretch that the O-line decided it really wasnt necessary to actually block anyone. Cutler did a good job of avoiding the rush enough to get the ball off. And if I am not mistaken, no sacks in the fist half. Am I right there?>
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
Tom, while he wasnt as flashy as last week, he did move the ball and get 17 points by half. He went int oa very hostile situation and performed quite well. While he started out rocky, and I use the term losely becasue it wasnt that bad, he did manage to recover well and lead us to one heck of a drive to end the half. We arent asking you to be giddy, but at least acknowledge that he is a good QB. And better then average because he has done nothing to show anything otherwise. While he might not be Brady or Manning, he is still one hell of a lot better then anything the Bears have had in my lifetime and probably most of yours.
Since QB ratings seem to matter to people, tell me how Cutler is ‘better than average” when his career QB rating is 87.1 and won-loss record is 17-20? Sorry, but that doesn’t scream “better than average” to me. I’ll concede he’s a bit better than Orton and miles ahead of Grossman in talent, but “better than average”? please…
Cutler has yet to live up to the hype. I’ve yet to see anything from the guy that makes me think this team will be better than last year.
Cutler is far more talented than Orton and far far far more mentally tough than Grossman. Cutler commanded that final TD drive with much efficiency and poise on his part. Cutler can also side step the rush in the pocket and buy an extra second for his receivers to get open, throw on the run and heave 70 yard bombs with ease. When was the last time you saw a bears QB do all those things?
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
Tom, while he wasnt as flashy as last week, he did move the ball and get 17 points by half. He went int oa very hostile situation and performed quite well. While he started out rocky, and I use the term losely becasue it wasnt that bad, he did manage to recover well and lead us to one heck of a drive to end the half. We arent asking you to be giddy, but at least acknowledge that he is a good QB. And better then average because he has done nothing to show anything otherwise. While he might not be Brady or Manning, he is still one hell of a lot better then anything the Bears have had in my lifetime and probably most of yours.
Since QB ratings seem to matter to people, tell me how Cutler is ‘better than average” when his career QB rating is 87.1 and won-loss record is 17-20? Sorry, but that doesn’t scream “better than average” to me. I’ll concede he’s a bit better than Orton and miles ahead of Grossman in talent, but “better than average”? please…
Cutler has yet to live up to the hype. I’ve yet to see anything from the guy that makes me think this team will be better than last year.
Tom, his won loss record is deceiving. Heck, Drew Brees is 55-50 for his career and he is easily considered a top three QB. But in your mind that would make him mearly average, right? Cutler played on some bad teams in Denver and started as a rookie for several games after the team was out of contention. He had no defense last year and was forced to play catch up on many occasions and as a result many picks occured. Having to make plays, you force the issues. But looking at him play, he is miles ahead of any QB we have had and that includes Orton. He makes throws that not many people in the leaghue can make. While he diesnt put up the flashy numbers, with in the frame work of the offense and given, and you ahve said this also, the lack of ability of the wide receivers, he is doing a fanstastic job. And have you noticed how much better Forte has been and how well our offense moves. But none of thiss seems to matter does it. I dont know what the guy has to do in order for you to see that he is easily a top15 QB if not top 10. And realize, he is only three years in the league. He is just now coming into his own.
He’s your red-headed step child of football. Doesn’t matter what he does, he can never do enough for you…
Bullshit. I’m supoosed to be all giddy now? Give me a fucking break....
Tom, while he wasnt as flashy as last week, he did move the ball and get 17 points by half. He went int oa very hostile situation and performed quite well. While he started out rocky, and I use the term losely becasue it wasnt that bad, he did manage to recover well and lead us to one heck of a drive to end the half. We arent asking you to be giddy, but at least acknowledge that he is a good QB. And better then average because he has done nothing to show anything otherwise. While he might not be Brady or Manning, he is still one hell of a lot better then anything the Bears have had in my lifetime and probably most of yours.
Since QB ratings seem to matter to people, tell me how Cutler is ‘better than average” when his career QB rating is 87.1 and won-loss record is 17-20? Sorry, but that doesn’t scream “better than average” to me. I’ll concede he’s a bit better than Orton and miles ahead of Grossman in talent, but “better than average”? please…
Cutler has yet to live up to the hype. I’ve yet to see anything from the guy that makes me think this team will be better than last year.
Cutler is far more talented than Orton and far far far more mentally tough than Grossman. Cutler commanded that final TD drive with much efficiency and poise on his part. Cutler can also side step the rush in the pocket and buy an extra second for his receivers to get open, throw on the run and heave 70 yard bombs with ease. When was the last time you saw a bears QB do all those things?
Grossman. But if we are talking accurate and giving the receiver a chance to make a play....... does Marty Booker count?
According to the Tribune, the Bears get Cutler and a 5th round pick in this year’s draft, and Denver gets Orton, the Bears’ 1st round picks in 2009 & 2010 and this year’s 3rd round pick.
IMO, the Bears gave up too much. Now the big question is..Who’s gonna back this assclown up when he fails to live up to the hype?
My argument is that this trade does nothing to move this team closer to the Super Bowl because QB was and is the least of their problems despite what Angelo says. They don’t have a good O-line, receivers who would would be no better than a 4th or 5th on other teams, DB’s who can’t cover receivers if their lives depended on it, a D-line that would be nothing short of a fucking miracale if it ever sacked an opposing QB more than twice a game, and a coaching staff who’d rather make excuses for failure rather than do the things necessary to achieve success.
Sorry but this was a waste of a trade.
Falling for the media hype are we? Cutler hasn’t proven shit yet. He’s only been in the league 3 years and has never played in the playoffs. IMO, he hasn’t shown me he’s a franchise QB for anybody yet. And he sure as hell isn’t going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl when this team doesn’t have any WR’s or an O-line that doesn’t resemble the turnstiles at Wal-Mart most of the time.
BTW, who says this guy’s going to be around for 10 years? The minute something doesn’t go his way, he’s going to throw another hissy fit and demand a trade or take a walk in free agency.
So he was in the Pro-Bowl, big deal. A meaningless exhibition where nobody tries to play real football. How many playoff games has he won?..Oh, that’s right...none..BECAUSE HE’S NEVER BEEN IN ONE!
Forgive me for being skeptical and not buying into the hype. I’m just not convinced yet that he’s everything everyone says he is. He’s definitely not a proven winner when the Broncos have only won 46% of the games he’s started.
Is he a better QB than Orton? IMO, only slightly. He’s definitely NOT the savior of the Chicago Bears all you guys are making him out to be. A better QB isn’t going to make an offensive line that’s questionable at best even with Orlando Pace, a corps of 4th string receivers and a defense that has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese any better.
Some of my TomD favorites from the day of the Cutler trade...yep...that’s giving him a fair shake…
According to the Tribune, the Bears get Cutler and a 5th round pick in this year’s draft, and Denver gets Orton, the Bears’ 1st round picks in 2009 & 2010 and this year’s 3rd round pick.
IMO, the Bears gave up too much. Now the big question is..Who’s gonna back this assclown up when he fails to live up to the hype?
My argument is that this trade does nothing to move this team closer to the Super Bowl because QB was and is the least of their problems despite what Angelo says. They don’t have a good O-line, receivers who would would be no better than a 4th or 5th on other teams, DB’s who can’t cover receivers if their lives depended on it, a D-line that would be nothing short of a fucking miracale if it ever sacked an opposing QB more than twice a game, and a coaching staff who’d rather make excuses for failure rather than do the things necessary to achieve success.
Sorry but this was a waste of a trade.
Falling for the media hype are we? Cutler hasn’t proven shit yet. He’s only been in the league 3 years and has never played in the playoffs. IMO, he hasn’t shown me he’s a franchise QB for anybody yet. And he sure as hell isn’t going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl when this team doesn’t have any WR’s or an O-line that doesn’t resemble the turnstiles at Wal-Mart most of the time.
BTW, who says this guy’s going to be around for 10 years? The minute something doesn’t go his way, he’s going to throw another hissy fit and demand a trade or take a walk in free agency.
So he was in the Pro-Bowl, big deal. A meaningless exhibition where nobody tries to play real football. How many playoff games has he won?..Oh, that’s right...none..BECAUSE HE’S NEVER BEEN IN ONE!
Forgive me for being skeptical and not buying into the hype. I’m just not convinced yet that he’s everything everyone says he is. He’s definitely not a proven winner when the Broncos have only won 46% of the games he’s started.
Is he a better QB than Orton? IMO, only slightly. He’s definitely NOT the savior of the Chicago Bears all you guys are making him out to be. A better QB isn’t going to make an offensive line that’s questionable at best even with Orlando Pace, a corps of 4th string receivers and a defense that has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese any better.
Some of my TomD favorites from the day of the Cutler trade...yep...that’s giving him a fair shake...
Still doesn’t support your contention that I “hate” the guy. But it does support my contetion that I don’t think he’s as great a QB as everyone, including you, make him out to be.
And for the record, I don’t buy the Drew Brees hype either.
You dont buy the Brees hype?
I means seriously. By what standard do you use to compare QB. The guy is a multi time Pro Bowler, has the second most yards EVER in a season and has made it to the NFC championship game and been in the playoffs several times. You know what, your right. And I dont buy into the Manning or the Brady hype as well. Tehy both are completely over rated.
According to the Tribune, the Bears get Cutler and a 5th round pick in this year’s draft, and Denver gets Orton, the Bears’ 1st round picks in 2009 & 2010 and this year’s 3rd round pick.
IMO, the Bears gave up too much. Now the big question is..Who’s gonna back this assclown up when he fails to live up to the hype?
My argument is that this trade does nothing to move this team closer to the Super Bowl because QB was and is the least of their problems despite what Angelo says. They don’t have a good O-line, receivers who would would be no better than a 4th or 5th on other teams, DB’s who can’t cover receivers if their lives depended on it, a D-line that would be nothing short of a fucking miracale if it ever sacked an opposing QB more than twice a game, and a coaching staff who’d rather make excuses for failure rather than do the things necessary to achieve success.
Sorry but this was a waste of a trade.
Falling for the media hype are we? Cutler hasn’t proven shit yet. He’s only been in the league 3 years and has never played in the playoffs. IMO, he hasn’t shown me he’s a franchise QB for anybody yet. And he sure as hell isn’t going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl when this team doesn’t have any WR’s or an O-line that doesn’t resemble the turnstiles at Wal-Mart most of the time.
BTW, who says this guy’s going to be around for 10 years? The minute something doesn’t go his way, he’s going to throw another hissy fit and demand a trade or take a walk in free agency.
So he was in the Pro-Bowl, big deal. A meaningless exhibition where nobody tries to play real football. How many playoff games has he won?..Oh, that’s right...none..BECAUSE HE’S NEVER BEEN IN ONE!
Forgive me for being skeptical and not buying into the hype. I’m just not convinced yet that he’s everything everyone says he is. He’s definitely not a proven winner when the Broncos have only won 46% of the games he’s started.
Is he a better QB than Orton? IMO, only slightly. He’s definitely NOT the savior of the Chicago Bears all you guys are making him out to be. A better QB isn’t going to make an offensive line that’s questionable at best even with Orlando Pace, a corps of 4th string receivers and a defense that has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese any better.
Some of my TomD favorites from the day of the Cutler trade...yep...that’s giving him a fair shake...
Still doesn’t support your contention that I “hate” the guy. But it does support my contetion that I don’t think he’s as great a QB as everyone, including you, make him out to be.
And for the record, I don’t buy the Drew Brees hype either.
You dont buy the Brees hype?
I means seriously. By what standard do you use to compare QB. The guy is a multi time Pro Bowler, has the second most yards EVER in a season and has made it to the NFC championship game and been in the playoffs several times. You know what, your right. And I dont buy into the Manning or the Brady hype as well. Tehy both are completely over rated.
According to the Tribune, the Bears get Cutler and a 5th round pick in this year’s draft, and Denver gets Orton, the Bears’ 1st round picks in 2009 & 2010 and this year’s 3rd round pick.
IMO, the Bears gave up too much. Now the big question is..Who’s gonna back this assclown up when he fails to live up to the hype?
My argument is that this trade does nothing to move this team closer to the Super Bowl because QB was and is the least of their problems despite what Angelo says. They don’t have a good O-line, receivers who would would be no better than a 4th or 5th on other teams, DB’s who can’t cover receivers if their lives depended on it, a D-line that would be nothing short of a fucking miracale if it ever sacked an opposing QB more than twice a game, and a coaching staff who’d rather make excuses for failure rather than do the things necessary to achieve success.
Sorry but this was a waste of a trade.
Falling for the media hype are we? Cutler hasn’t proven shit yet. He’s only been in the league 3 years and has never played in the playoffs. IMO, he hasn’t shown me he’s a franchise QB for anybody yet. And he sure as hell isn’t going to lead the Bears to the Super Bowl when this team doesn’t have any WR’s or an O-line that doesn’t resemble the turnstiles at Wal-Mart most of the time.
BTW, who says this guy’s going to be around for 10 years? The minute something doesn’t go his way, he’s going to throw another hissy fit and demand a trade or take a walk in free agency.
So he was in the Pro-Bowl, big deal. A meaningless exhibition where nobody tries to play real football. How many playoff games has he won?..Oh, that’s right...none..BECAUSE HE’S NEVER BEEN IN ONE!
Forgive me for being skeptical and not buying into the hype. I’m just not convinced yet that he’s everything everyone says he is. He’s definitely not a proven winner when the Broncos have only won 46% of the games he’s started.
Is he a better QB than Orton? IMO, only slightly. He’s definitely NOT the savior of the Chicago Bears all you guys are making him out to be. A better QB isn’t going to make an offensive line that’s questionable at best even with Orlando Pace, a corps of 4th string receivers and a defense that has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese any better.
Some of my TomD favorites from the day of the Cutler trade...yep...that’s giving him a fair shake...
Still doesn’t support your contention that I “hate” the guy. But it does support my contetion that I don’t think he’s as great a QB as everyone, including you, make him out to be.
And for the record, I don’t buy the Drew Brees hype either.
You dont buy the Brees hype?
I means seriously. By what standard do you use to compare QB. The guy is a multi time Pro Bowler, has the second most yards EVER in a season and has made it to the NFC championship game and been in the playoffs several times. You know what, your right. And I dont buy into the Manning or the Brady hype as well. Tehy both are completely over rated.
Completely over rated. All hype and I am not buying it.
