Jay Cutler = Jeff George?

The fact that he had a lot of interceptions, is not as significant as how those interceptions came about. Under-thrown, overthrown, thrown straight to defenders, trying to fit into extremely tight spots. These kind of passes are never the receiver’s fault. Or the offensive line’s. Or the coordinator’s. Or the head coach’s.

BigBadBill - 30 August 2010 08:52 AM

Jay Cutler = Jeff George?

I’m starting to think so.

Why is this such a revelation now?

I Googled “revelations” and got this.

Question - If Jay Cutler wore ol #8 on Saturday night, would he have been lynched?

At this point, what really is the difference between the two?

And don’t tell me “potential”.

Jeff George still has not reached his “potential”. Doesn’t make him anymore better a quarterback.

Big Star - 30 August 2010 09:17 AM

Why is this such a revelation now?

Prior to joining the Bears, Jay had 2 full seasons in the NFL.  I don’t think he was great but he was good and he was young.  Good young players tend to, you know, get better.  Perhaps you are much smarter than I am, but I don’t judge players after 2 years, especially QB’s.  I can’t think of any QB’s who were finished products after 2 years in the league.  The list of great QB’s who weren’t great after Year 2 is a long, long list.

I also could care less about Jay’s W-L record at Vanderbilt.  If you think college W-L reflects on a QB’s ability, then you must think Matt Leinart is a great QB since he won so much in college.  Leinart had a great team around him, Cutler had a bad team around him.

So I do find the fact that Cutler is much worse now than he was after 2 years in the league, somewhat surprising.  Rick Mirer is the only other QB I can remember actually getting worse as his career went on.

One year under Ron Turner has turned Cutler into a quivering mass of goo.

Roman F - 30 August 2010 09:40 AM

Big Star - 30 August 2010 09:17 AM

Why is this such a revelation now?

Prior to joining the Bears, Jay had 2 full seasons in the NFL.  I don’t think he was great but he was good and he was young.  Good young players tend to, you know, get better.  Perhaps you are much smarter than I am, but I don’t judge players after 2 years, especially QB’s.  I can’t think of any QB’s who were finished products after 2 years in the league.  The list of great QB’s who weren’t great after Year 2 is a long, long list.

I also could care less about Jay’s W-L record at Vanderbilt.  If you think college W-L reflects on a QB’s ability, then you must think Matt Leinart is a great QB since he won so much in college.  Leinart had a great team around him, Cutler had a bad team around him.

So I do find the fact that after 2 years in the league, Cutler is much worse now than he was then, somewhat surprising.

Actually I supported the trade.

But there were clear cut red flags with Jay Cutler, most prominently his fallout in Denver. Weird how Kyle Orton did not have a hissyfit when McDaniels brought Brady Quinn into camp and drafted Tim Tebow. As for Cutler, did he really earn the type of stripes of being so overly indignant over the possibility of being traded or competing for the starter’s position?

Mike Martz seems to be going overboard with the lavishing praise for Cutler. Is that really necessary to stroke the ego? A real 180 degree difference from Martz’s comments prior to joining the coaching staff. Seemingly insincere as well.

Jay Cutler has a cannon for an arm. He can also improv with the scrambling from time to time. But he has happy feet in the pocket and clearly is uncomfortable with a 7 step drop as instructed by his guru. Cannot blame him as this offensive line is just plain offensive.

The OL is no better than last season, it seems. It begins and ends with providing Cutler protection.  However at some point, Cutler is going to have to adjust to the piss poor protection and flat out make some big plays other than the interception - pic 6 - variety.

Time to be honest. Is the offensive line that bad or just unwilling to lay it all out for protecting its quarterback?

Personally, I think Urlacher’s “Jay’s a pussy” quote (disputed or not in its authenticity) continues to resonate in that locker room. Brian may claim that the Bears are “Jay’s team” but who is really buying this assertion? And I highly doubt that it really helps to have Martz heap such hyperbolic b.s. about his quarterback. Nobody gets along with the teacher’s pet.

I have watched plenty of bad Bears football, just like everyone else here. Yet, I’d be hard pressed to find a bigger disconnect between an OL and its QB than the current situation. Jim Miller was nothing special but commanded plenty of respect from his line. And yes, so did Grossman who took more slings and arrows for the very same problems that Cutler continues to get a pass on. As for Orton, he was never going to win a big game but rarely did he lose managing one. As Cap Rooney told Tony, “they won’t play for him.” I wonder if we are witnessing the very same symptoms.

Looking back, Cutler was worth a shot when made suddenly available. It is hard to fault Jerry Angelo for the acquisition. The Chicago media would never have let up on Angelo if the opportunity was passed over. But the mentality that Cutler was basically “better than any top draft pick” selection that could be made by Jerry Angelo is a clear indictment against the GM. And this is clearly not the coaching staff that is likely to resurrect Cutler’s career to revive anything currently experienced by the other teams in this division.

For God’s sake, Matt Stafford is developing faster.

I cannot help but question what the hell kind of camp is run by Lovie Smith. Every other NFL team seems to be preparing to play football. For Lovie and his college of former terrible to mediocre head coaches, it seems to be an academic pursuit to validate an antiquated cover-2 defense and the brilliance of Professor Martz.

Enough of trying to cover coaches asses and their philosophies.

Let’s win some football games.

I, too, wonder what kind of camp Lovie runs. According to published reports they don’t do much hitting and they run a lot of 7 on 7 drills. More than any other team. In other words, they run a lot of plays with no O or D lines.  Which seems to be exactly what they do during regular games as well.

Chicago is where potentially great QBs go to die.

Thick McRunfast - 30 August 2010 10:44 AM

Chicago is where potentially great QBs go to die.

Oh for fucksakes me up Big Tits ass with Paco’s 9 inch dildo Cutler never had NOR WILL show any “greatness"- the guy fuckin’ blows donkey dick- terrible trade- how anyone could say we were better up with blood sugar fuckface over Orton is beyond me. We need and always have needed a line and we’d be better off with Orton with a great line than Cuntler.
FUCK CUNTLER!

LeBrutler Toko Boozer - 30 August 2010 12:13 PM

Thick McRunfast - 30 August 2010 10:44 AM

Chicago is where potentially great QBs go to die.

Oh for fucksakes me up Big Tits ass with Paco’s 9 inch dildo Cutler never had NOR WILL show any “greatness"- the guy fuckin’ blows donkey dick- terrible trade- how anyone could say we were better up with blood sugar fuckface over Orton is beyond me. We need and always have needed a line and we’d be better off with Orton with a great line than Cuntler.
FUCK CUNTLER!

ALL ORTON HAS DONE IS WIN WITH A SHIT FUCKIN TERRIBLE LINE- ORTON WON- CUNTLER CAN’T- end of story- so if Orton could win with a shit line imagine what he could do with a good line- you guys don’t know shit- go watch Nascar

It’s not good to hold all that anger inside like that.

If referring to Orton’s time with the Bears, he probably had a better offensive line than Jay Cutler. A younger Kreutz at center almost cinches that argument.

Has Kyle Orton achieved anymore success in Denver than Cutler? I dunno about that one either.

Orton is as Orton does. Cutler was acquired based on potential. Not really sure if that was so bad or not. But it was a deal Jerry Angelo had to make under the circumstances.

Big Star - 30 August 2010 12:21 PM

If referring to Orton’s time with the Bears, he probably had a better offensive line than Jay Cutler. A younger Kreutz at center almost cinches that argument.

Has Kyle Orton achieved anymore success in Denver than Cutler? I dunno about that one either.

Orton is as Orton does. Cutler was acquired based on potential. Not really sure if that was so bad or not. But it was a deal Jerry Angelo had to make under the circumstances.

Oh please- the line was shit then and shit now- and Denver was a better team when stupid first name Cuntler was QB than what Orton has to work with. All Orton did was win. He did. He won games for the Bears. Maybe players simply tried harded when he was QB? Maybe his beard does have powers? All I know is that stupid fucks like you all who watch Nascar and soccer and even the NBA screamed like little F***tard’s asshole being drilled by a chimp tit Paco that we needed a QB and that was the only big problem with that current Bears team. And Angelo fell for it and required Orton. Wow brilliant move.

You take the same team, same line, stick Orton there or put Cuntler there and Orton will win.... Cuntler… well… you are currently seeing what he does… shake your head much?