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Posted: 18 October 2007 06:48 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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Today’s drivel once agaiin call for Paxon to get Kobe, at any cost. Tinky is like a brat kid int the toy store, “I want, I want, I want...” Well that is easy to say when you don’t foot the bill or have to worry about a luxury tax. He once agian tells us that Kobe could be the next MJ, who at this point is reduced to nothing more than “a roaming executive and Jeff’s dad.” Watch out Jeff. Tinky may be developing a crush on you they way he did with your dad.

Tinky also once again brings up Mark Cuban. Not just because Cuban has the pieces to pull off a trade, but because he wants the Cubs and looks marvelous in a black suit. Homo-eroticism at work again.

When will Tinky learn that he is not a GM, knows nothing about the dynamics of running a franchise, and prhaps even less about writing? Please, someone make it stop.

Go get ‘em Bill and Tyrone.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 07:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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I love when actual journalists do the work for me. Here are a few quotes from a good writer that disputes the BPLP’s latest F***tard Fix and inane crybaby logic.

Two league executives believe that the Bulls have been poking around this week, trying to get a sense of where internal matters truly stand between Bryant and the Lakers. Still, Chicago has been a model blueprint on constructing a contender through the draft and smart trades. As long as GM John Paxson has the sport’s best-kept talent-evaluating secret, Gar Forman, on his front office staff, you can make the case that gutting this team for Bryant isn’t the wisest route to a championship.

What if the Bulls do trade away Deng, along with a Tyrus Thomas and a Thabo Sefolosha and Bryant does start to have serious trouble with those aging knees? The Celtics had no choice but to trade its young players for Kevin Garnett. They had nothing to lose. But the Bulls? If the Bulls re-sign Deng and Ben Gordon to extensions, they have a contender for the next decade.

For Paxson and his coach, Scott Skiles, they must consider their own personal survival as a rising star executive and coach. Eventually, Kobe comes for everyone. In his adult life, it is hard to find a relationship – personal or professional – that Bryant hasn’t come close, or succeeded, in destroying. From his family, to his bosses, to his teammates, there’s a frighteningly selfish streak of destruction.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkzXvTo3X9APsfV3jsocB0g5nYcB?slug=aw-lakers101707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

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Posted: 18 October 2007 07:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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I love when actual journalists do the work for me. Here are a few quotes from a good writer that disputes the BPLP’s latest F***tard Fix and inane crybaby logic.

Two league executives believe that the Bulls have been poking around this week, trying to get a sense of where internal matters truly stand between Bryant and the Lakers. Still, Chicago has been a model blueprint on constructing a contender through the draft and smart trades. As long as GM John Paxson has the sport’s best-kept talent-evaluating secret, Gar Forman, on his front office staff, you can make the case that gutting this team for Bryant isn’t the wisest route to a championship.

What if the Bulls do trade away Deng, along with a Tyrus Thomas and a Thabo Sefolosha and Bryant does start to have serious trouble with those aging knees? The Celtics had no choice but to trade its young players for Kevin Garnett. They had nothing to lose. But the Bulls? If the Bulls re-sign Deng and Ben Gordon to extensions, they have a contender for the next decade.

For Paxson and his coach, Scott Skiles, they must consider their own personal survival as a rising star executive and coach. Eventually, Kobe comes for everyone. In his adult life, it is hard to find a relationship – personal or professional – that Bryant hasn’t come close, or succeeded, in destroying. From his family, to his bosses, to his teammates, there’s a frighteningly selfish streak of destruction.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AkzXvTo3X9APsfV3jsocB0g5nYcB?slug=aw-lakers101707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

What this guy said.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 07:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Dont you think that if Kobe was going to be the next Jordan, he already would be.  I am a Kobe hater.  I admit it.  It stems all the way back to him demanding a trade before to one team.  Defeats the entire point of a draft in my opinion.  However, with that being said, I do have to ackowledge that he has the entire skill set that Jordan did....except the fact that he doesnt make players better.  At no point do you look at the Lakers roster and say dang, those guys shouldnt be as good as they were.  Jordan did that.  Jordan made a lot of money for himself, but also for hte likes of Pippen, Longley, Kerr, and Buechler who all signed big deals when the team was dismantled and not one of them lived up to it.  Why?  Because no individual player was nearly as good as they were when playing with MJ. 

Kobe has some talent on that team.  Lamar Odom is a relaly good and diverse player on the level of a Pippen.  Not nearly as good as Pip was with Jordan but a similar type player.  At no point though do you look at that roster and say that Kobe is making them any better.  Now if we were to trade for the side of beef, would our roster really be any different then the Lakers?  In all likelyhood, we would have to give up Deng and Gordon and Wallace to get Kobe.  All of a sudden you are down our two top scorers and arguably our best defender and our best rebounder.  That would leave us with a very unproven and small lineup.  In addition, do you think Kobe would make the others better? Gordon and Deng were able to get points within the framework of the system we ran.  Kobe’s system would be give ball to Kobe, get out of hte way.  This doesnt work.  It has been proven. 

As much as I would love a talent like Kobe on hte team, I am not willing to get rid of the pieces of the team that make us good for a player that will stagnate the offense and still wouldnt make that much of an improvement if any at all.  Besides, dont we have enough jump shooters already and that appears to be what Kobe has become.  Atleast in my opinion.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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F***tard is enamored with the concept of Kobe “owning the town”.

Who really wants that?

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Posted: 18 October 2007 08:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]  
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But if he* gets over it, what’s he* going to whine about?  How will he* continue to take shots at the Bulls?  I just think it’s so funny, the MDF would have ridden Kobe out of town during the Colorado thing and now Paxson has to get him at all costs.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 09:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]  
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This part is priceless:

“I’d make the deal even with Deng in it. Paxson might not have to, though, depending on Mark Cuban. Yes, when he isn’t trying to buy the Cubs or holding his own in ‘Dancing With The Stars,’ Cuban continues to own the Dallas Mavericks. And the other night, looking marvelous in a black suit, he said the Mavs might have big interest in Bryant.”

Mike Downey in today’s Tribune also calls for the Bulls to trade for Kobe but it’s more lukewarm than Tinky’s.  He basically asks the Bulls to find out what the Lakers want for him and figures it wouldn’t be too much (but doesn’t say exactly who he might envision going and one or two draft picks).  Sadly, it also repeats the shopping mall conversation, old news by now, and agrees that Kobe could bring a championship to Chicago without really explaining why.  All in all, a pretty lame column for somebody who usually does better.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]  
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Let’s review F***tard won/loss record on superstars, shall we? The Sox needed to get A-rod in ‘05 or they were going down the drain. They did not and won the world series. The Cubs needed to get Soraino or they were going down the drain. They did and got swept by a Cub Scout troop in the first round of the playoffs. The Bears needed to sign a franchise quarterback .... wait, sorry about that one, I doubt there is anyone at Halas Hall who can spell quarterback, so this one isn’t fair. Anyway, now we have Kobe. Again, the F***tard philosophy of one player makes a team.

For an opposite opinion, we need not go far. We can just walk down the hall to Greg Couch’s office and READ THIS. Couch admits he erred when looking at “superstar” talent and neglecting the concept of teamwork. He gets two automatic Brownie points (in keeping with our cub Scout theme). One for publicly admitting he was wrong and one for stating how the error could be corrected.

As Ed pointed out, after you get through the bizarre grammar and spelling it is in there, Kobe doesn’t make anyone better. He is all about THE KOBE BAY-BEE. He is not what a team like Chicago needs or should want. Leave him (Kobe, not Ed) in La La Land and let’s watch some real basketball.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]  
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You are exactly right on that. Tinky would have been all over him for the Colorado thing. Very indignant and put out. Get rid of him he’d be bitching!! This hack is such a loser I have a hard time believing that the people who own that paper and the editors can stand to read the continuing pile of shit he produces. They should just leave him on the web and keep him out of print in the paper. I can’t read that shit paper anymore. Couch is gay, have you seen the picture in the paper? He, to his credit at least does some investigating before opening his trap. Elliot Harris, other than the pictures of the babes, is useless. Carol Slezak is out of her mind half the time. And Telander....surprise another story about Northwestern. As you can see I’m losing it today. I’ll be better soon. How much to hire somebody for OJ and Mariotti? Can I get a two for one? Nevermind.........I was an alterboy once and must learn to forgive, right?

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Posted: 18 October 2007 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]  
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Back away from the ledge MMc. It will be all right. As to Elliot, I have to say one thing in his favor, he doesn’t pretend to be anything other than what he is. F***tard thinks he’s a journalist. Well, he did for a while. Now he thinks he’s a columnist. By this time next year he will probably think he is a swan.
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Posted: 18 October 2007 09:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]  
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The bottom line is that I’m happy with the Bulls lineup and the players. They’re not the force that was around during the Jordan years, but that’s impossible to recreate. Paxson’s got a team with a coach who will bust people’s balls and a team of winners who will bust their ass. Deng, Gordon, Noah, Hinrich.... all of these guys are team players. Kobe isn’t. He’s a divisive person and will fracture the team because he’s a guy who resorts to whining when he doesn’t get his way. Do you think that Skiles will put up with his primadonna behavior? I’ve got money that Skiles will punch him in the face within the first 20 games.

The cost to the Bulls isn’t just in players - it’s in a loss of good PR, it’s in destroying good team chemistry and sacrificing team goals for the sake of stats. I can’t see a single upside for Kobe. Not a single one.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 10:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]  
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"never,ever has this been a “basketball” town.” Does He* even live near Chicago?  I mean, call me crazy but I am pretty sure that I have seen a few Bulls shirts here and there.  Back in the 90’s I seem to remember a few Championships too.  Now that you mention it, doesn’t Chicago usually produce a few good highschool ballers?  I know everytime I walk out my front door I have to dodge footballs, baseballs, and soccerballs but I know I’ve seen one or two kids playing hoops.  Maybe its just my neighborhood then.  No, it can’t be that, I live in Chicago.  Damn it what is he* talkin about then.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 10:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]  
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Rooney - 18 October 2007 10:17 AM

“never,ever has this been a “basketball” town.” Does He* even live near Chicago?  I mean, call me crazy but I am pretty sure that I have seen a few Bulls shirts here and there.  Back in the 90’s I seem to remember a few Championships too.  Now that you mention it, doesn’t Chicago usually produce a few good highschool ballers?  I know everytime I walk out my front door I have to dodge footballs, baseballs, and soccerballs but I know I’ve seen one or two kids playing hoops.  Maybe its just my neighborhood then.  No, it can’t be that, I live in Chicago.  Damn it what is he* talkin about then.

Is he* referring to the 50’s and the Chicago Stags? Or maybe the 60s with the Chicago Packers/Zephyrs or Chicago Majors? Or perhaps the mid-70’s when you could buy tickets to a Conference Final without having to be a season ticket holder.

I seem to recall an un-Godly number of consecutive sell-outs during the 1990s by the Bulls.

I also seem to recall one of the priorities that Bruce Weber at Illinois has is to get the talent that’s in Chicago.

What an MDF!!!

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Posted: 18 October 2007 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]  
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I realize that everyone in Chicago is a Bear fan and this is a Bear town, but the Bulls are equally represented.  I am offended by these comments by BPB.  Its just not accurate.  My God isn’t anyone responsible for his total lack of Chicago fan and sport team knowledge.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 11:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]  
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New post is up and directly attached to Hino’s thread.

Hope people enjoy the post.

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Posted: 18 October 2007 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]  
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Brilliant Tyrone. I like the “loon” quote. But, you have to understand, that was written pre-text messages. Whereas before he wanted Cuban smoked, now he wants to smoke a Cuban!!

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